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		<title>Comment on Christian Hoover of Heidelberg Township, York County by Kris Hocker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kris Hocker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2012 12:37:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you&#039;ve confused Christian Hoovers (There were quite a few of them!). If the Christian Hoover who married Nancy Plowman died in 1771, how did he father a child in 1807——36 years after his death? 

Christian Hoover of Heidelberg Township died in 1771 and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.krishocker.com/will-christian-hoover-1771/&quot; title=&quot;Will: Christian Hoover (1771)&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;left a will&lt;/a&gt;. It clearly states that his wife&#039;s name was Mary, leaving all his estate to her. Subsequent research identified her as Maria &quot;Mary&quot; Gochenour. Christian left money to the children of his deceased brothers and sister, but names no children of his own. This is a clear indication that he died without issue.

You have established a link between Christian and Mary (Lehman) Hoover and Christian Augustus Hoover, but what evidence do you have that Christian and Nancy (Plowman) Hoover are related? What made you think that Christian Hoover of Heidelberg was this man? What location is associated with Christian and Nancy (Plowman) Hoover?

Send me some information and I&#039;ll see if I can point you in the right direction.
Kris</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you&#8217;ve confused Christian Hoovers (There were quite a few of them!). If the Christian Hoover who married Nancy Plowman died in 1771, how did he father a child in 1807——36 years after his death? </p>
<p>Christian Hoover of Heidelberg Township died in 1771 and <a href="http://www.krishocker.com/will-christian-hoover-1771/" title="Will: Christian Hoover (1771)" rel="nofollow">left a will</a>. It clearly states that his wife&#8217;s name was Mary, leaving all his estate to her. Subsequent research identified her as Maria &#8220;Mary&#8221; Gochenour. Christian left money to the children of his deceased brothers and sister, but names no children of his own. This is a clear indication that he died without issue.</p>
<p>You have established a link between Christian and Mary (Lehman) Hoover and Christian Augustus Hoover, but what evidence do you have that Christian and Nancy (Plowman) Hoover are related? What made you think that Christian Hoover of Heidelberg was this man? What location is associated with Christian and Nancy (Plowman) Hoover?</p>
<p>Send me some information and I&#8217;ll see if I can point you in the right direction.<br />
Kris</p>
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		<title>Comment on Christian Hoover of Heidelberg Township, York County by D</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2012 03:50:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is very interesting- but I must be missing a puzzle piece somewhere along the way.. I thought the Christian Hoover who died 1771 wed Nancy Plowman and that they had a son Christian Hoover 1807- 1918 who wed Mary Lehman 1803-1883 [according to Christian and Mary&#039;s son Christian Augustus Hoover&#039;s death cert his parents are Christian Hoover and Mary Lehman]. Do I have something mixed up?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is very interesting- but I must be missing a puzzle piece somewhere along the way.. I thought the Christian Hoover who died 1771 wed Nancy Plowman and that they had a son Christian Hoover 1807- 1918 who wed Mary Lehman 1803-1883 [according to Christian and Mary's son Christian Augustus Hoover's death cert his parents are Christian Hoover and Mary Lehman]. Do I have something mixed up?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Tombstone Tuesday: Joseph and Judith (Deisher) Snyder by Jason Hughes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason Hughes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 20:33:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a book I bought in an antique store in Waco Texas that I believe was written by Ida Dora Snyder in the year 1887. I would love to find some family that may have handwriting or could verify this book. It was written by Charles Dickens and it is a first printing of “The Old Curiosity Shop.” The inscription states: “Grandma- With a Marry Christmas from your loving Granddaughter, Ida Dora Snyder, Christmas, 1887.”</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a book I bought in an antique store in Waco Texas that I believe was written by Ida Dora Snyder in the year 1887. I would love to find some family that may have handwriting or could verify this book. It was written by Charles Dickens and it is a first printing of “The Old Curiosity Shop.” The inscription states: “Grandma- With a Marry Christmas from your loving Granddaughter, Ida Dora Snyder, Christmas, 1887.”</p>
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		<title>Comment on How to Use the Online Land Records at the PA State Archives by Rondina Muncy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rondina Muncy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jan 2012 19:47:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent post on a site that I have become well-acquainted with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent post on a site that I have become well-acquainted with.</p>
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		<title>Comment on How to Use the Online Land Records at the PA State Archives by Robert Test</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Test</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jan 2012 01:53:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow! I can&#039;t believe you took the time to look up the patent. Thank you.
I think I had scanned through those pages but totally missed it.

I notice on the patent that the date of the survey is given as Nov. 13, 1684 and that &quot;matches&quot; the date of &quot;13th 11th mo 1684 of the survey. So I agree the survey on p 69 matches with this patent.

Interesting that the person who copied the material interpreted the 11th month to be November when, in fact, in 1684 the 11th month was actually January.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow! I can&#8217;t believe you took the time to look up the patent. Thank you.<br />
I think I had scanned through those pages but totally missed it.</p>
<p>I notice on the patent that the date of the survey is given as Nov. 13, 1684 and that &#8220;matches&#8221; the date of &#8220;13th 11th mo 1684 of the survey. So I agree the survey on p 69 matches with this patent.</p>
<p>Interesting that the person who copied the material interpreted the 11th month to be November when, in fact, in 1684 the 11th month was actually January.</p>
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		<title>Comment on How to Use the Online Land Records at the PA State Archives by Kris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2012 01:06:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for the feedback, Robert. I&#039;m so glad you found this post useful!

To the best of my knowledge the copied survey is all that&#039;s available for the survey. I could be wrong, though. The best place to get more information would be from the Archivist at the State Archives. You can reach them via email at &lt;a href=&quot;mailto:ra-statearchives@pa.gov&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;ra-statearchives@pa.gov&lt;/a&gt;.

To order a copy of the patent you need the name of the patentee, the date of the patent, the volume, book and page number. Since these are not listed in the Old Philadelphia Rights, you should try looking them up in the Patent Registers for series A and AA, 1681-1781. There is a listing there for John Test (warrant dated 13 Nov 1784 to John Test; patent to John Test, dated 17 Nov 1684, Patent Book A1:58) for a Philadelphia city lot (see patents for surname starting with T, page 309). This looks like it might fit with survey D75:69. It&#039;s possible he never got a patent for D75:68. Check the reverse pages for D75:68 &amp; 69 to see if there&#039;s additional information you could provide the archivist.

Hope that helps. Good luck &amp; let me know if you find anything more!
Kris</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for the feedback, Robert. I&#8217;m so glad you found this post useful!</p>
<p>To the best of my knowledge the copied survey is all that&#8217;s available for the survey. I could be wrong, though. The best place to get more information would be from the Archivist at the State Archives. You can reach them via email at <a href="mailto:ra-statearchives@pa.gov" rel="nofollow">ra-statearchives@pa.gov</a>.</p>
<p>To order a copy of the patent you need the name of the patentee, the date of the patent, the volume, book and page number. Since these are not listed in the Old Philadelphia Rights, you should try looking them up in the Patent Registers for series A and AA, 1681-1781. There is a listing there for John Test (warrant dated 13 Nov 1784 to John Test; patent to John Test, dated 17 Nov 1684, Patent Book A1:58) for a Philadelphia city lot (see patents for surname starting with T, page 309). This looks like it might fit with survey D75:69. It&#8217;s possible he never got a patent for D75:68. Check the reverse pages for D75:68 &#038; 69 to see if there&#8217;s additional information you could provide the archivist.</p>
<p>Hope that helps. Good luck &#038; let me know if you find anything more!<br />
Kris</p>
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		<title>Comment on How to Use the Online Land Records at the PA State Archives by Robert Test</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Test</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jan 2012 23:37:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kris, 

Thank you for all the work you&#039;ve done here. You&#039;ve enabled me to find the warrant and survey listings of a couple of my ancestor&#039;s purchases. I never would have tried looking for them without the help I found here.

My ancestor is listed in the Philadelphia Old Rights Index. That index lists two warrants for a survey recorded in Survey Record Book D, Vol. 75, pages 68 and 69. I found these and discovered them to be copies made in 1909. 

Can I assume that if I ordered copies from the State Archives that I would get a copy of the (microfilmed) original record made in 1683 and 1684? 

Secondly, I want to find/order a copy of the patents. So, do I need the date of the patent and the Vol. Book an page numbers? I take it that these are not identical to the survey volume, boo,k and page numbers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kris, </p>
<p>Thank you for all the work you&#8217;ve done here. You&#8217;ve enabled me to find the warrant and survey listings of a couple of my ancestor&#8217;s purchases. I never would have tried looking for them without the help I found here.</p>
<p>My ancestor is listed in the Philadelphia Old Rights Index. That index lists two warrants for a survey recorded in Survey Record Book D, Vol. 75, pages 68 and 69. I found these and discovered them to be copies made in 1909. </p>
<p>Can I assume that if I ordered copies from the State Archives that I would get a copy of the (microfilmed) original record made in 1683 and 1684? </p>
<p>Secondly, I want to find/order a copy of the patents. So, do I need the date of the patent and the Vol. Book an page numbers? I take it that these are not identical to the survey volume, boo,k and page numbers.</p>
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		<title>Comment on How to Use the Online Land Records at the PA State Archives by Kris Hocker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kris Hocker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jan 2012 19:40:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you, Michael. I&#039;ll have to check the posts out because I&#039;ve got quite a bit of Maryland research to do, too!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, Michael. I&#8217;ll have to check the posts out because I&#8217;ve got quite a bit of Maryland research to do, too!</p>
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		<title>Comment on How to Use the Online Land Records at the PA State Archives by Michael Hait</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Hait</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jan 2012 19:36:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Absolutely fantastic post! Like you, I love using land records for the research. Like the old adage says, &quot;Follow the money,&quot; and almost nothing was more valuable than land. You may be interested in a few articles I wrote about the land patent process in Maryland (another proprietary colony) a few years ago. See http://www.examiner.com/genealogy-history-in-baltimore/colonial-maryland-land-patents-and-headrights and http://www.examiner.com/genealogy-history-in-baltimore/researching-colonial-maryland-patent-records and http://www.examiner.com/genealogy-history-in-baltimore/colonial-maryland-patented-and-unpatented-certificates</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Absolutely fantastic post! Like you, I love using land records for the research. Like the old adage says, &#8220;Follow the money,&#8221; and almost nothing was more valuable than land. You may be interested in a few articles I wrote about the land patent process in Maryland (another proprietary colony) a few years ago. See <a href="http://www.examiner.com/genealogy-history-in-baltimore/colonial-maryland-land-patents-and-headrights" rel="nofollow">http://www.examiner.com/genealogy-history-in-baltimore/colonial-maryland-land-patents-and-headrights</a> and <a href="http://www.examiner.com/genealogy-history-in-baltimore/researching-colonial-maryland-patent-records" rel="nofollow">http://www.examiner.com/genealogy-history-in-baltimore/researching-colonial-maryland-patent-records</a> and <a href="http://www.examiner.com/genealogy-history-in-baltimore/colonial-maryland-patented-and-unpatented-certificates" rel="nofollow">http://www.examiner.com/genealogy-history-in-baltimore/colonial-maryland-patented-and-unpatented-certificates</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on How to Use the Online Land Records at the PA State Archives by Jacob Huber 1733 Warrant &#124; /genealogy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jacob Huber 1733 Warrant &#124; /genealogy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jan 2012 12:04:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] written about how to use the online land records at the Pennsylvania State Archives, it&#8217;s only fair that I provide examples of what each document [...]</description>
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