Comments on: Andreas HUBER (1723—1784)

By: Kris

Kris — Wed, 05 May 2010 20:31:57 +0000

I'm afraid I don't beyond the following. Your Catherine Hoover was the daughter of Andrew Hoover (1738), possibly born in Ittlingen, Germany. Andrew came over in 1738 on the ship Two Sisters at the age of 15. By 26 May 1762, he was in Frederick County, Maryland where he lived and raised his family until moving to North Carolina. He sold his Frederick County land on 8 Oct 1799. He is the ancestor of President Hoover. You'll see Ellerstadt as his German place of origin all over the web and in published books. However, no other immigrant on the Two Sisters has been shown to be from Ellerstadt, while several are proven to be from Ittlingen. Since a young boy would not have been traveling alone, it is more likely that he was from Ittlingen and traveling with friends, neighbors or relatives. Check out my post on the three Andrew Hoovers for more information on their origins and the confusion among them.

By: R. Daniel Byrns

R. Daniel Byrns — Sun, 02 May 2010 13:03:13 +0000

There is a Catherine Hoover in my family tree that is supposed to have been a daughter of Andrew Hoover. She is said to have been born about 1762, and married my ancestor Thomas Byrn in North Carolina before 1780. Do you know anything about her?

By: Kris

Kris — Wed, 21 Apr 2010 15:36:10 +0000

That’s some interesting information!

I don’t know of any of the descendants of Andrew Hoover who went to Crawford County. The only locations I’ve been able to document are in Licking County, Ohio and Ohio County, Kentucky. That doesn’t mean that they couldn’t have. I’ve certainly not documented the whole family. Andrew Hoover Jr. may have had a son named Jacob; I’ve only documented his daughter Anna Maria. Henry Hoover had a son named Jacob; I know almost nothing about him, but believe he remained in Fayette County. Jacob Hoover had a grandson named Jacob, but I believe he stayed in Ohio County, Kentucky. And I don’t know of any children from John and Mary (___) Hoover, Andrew Hoover Sr.’s eldest son. They may have had a son named Jacob, but I’ve no data on their children except tick marks on census records that may or may not have actually been their children.

There was a Henry Hoover, a single man, in the tax records of Tyrone Township, Fayette County, Pennsylvania in 1801 and maybe 1802, and also a Sarah Hoover. I wonder if she’s the widow Hoover (45+) there in 1800 with 1 male 10-15, 1 male 16-25, 1 female 10-15, and 1 female 16-25?

Also, there were various members of other Hoover families from Lancaster County who ended up in Richland County, Ohio which is the next county over from Crawford. Perhaps there’s some relationship there. John Hoover and his wife Elizabeth Fessel went from Lancaster County, Pennsylvania to Rockingham County, Virginia, then circa 1822 to Richland County, Ohio. According to the information I have they had children: Benjamin, Samuel, Anna, John, Joseph, Maria, Elizabeth, William, Caroline, Barbara, Sarah, and David. John was a descendant of Hans Huber of Earl Township. Also, Christian Huber and his wife Anna followed the same route.

I’ll keep a look out for additional information!

By: Joseph Hoover

Joseph Hoover — Tue, 06 Apr 2010 08:00:24 +0000

Well done! My own family appears in Crawford County Ohio around 1840. A Jacob Hoover patented land there in 1822. My GGG-grandad Samuel wed Sarah Casto there in 1834. Samuel was born 1813 in PA and his brother William was born there in 1806. Andrew is a name both of these men gave to their sons. There is a David Casto involved in the Shinn/Hoover land case in Monongalia Chancery Court, 1815….A David and Abel Casto patented land about a section away from Jacob Hoover in Crawford County ca 1822 as well. If any of this rings a bell please let me know!

By: Ann Kern

Ann Kern — Sun, 07 Mar 2010 03:59:25 +0000

Thank you very much for all your splendid research. I am a Kern. A descendant
of Lt. Willikam Kern and Catherine Hoover Kern. A descendant of their third
son Jacob and Lavina Sleasman. My information on the Kern’s comes from a copy
of a book by Tilden H. Kern “The Descendants of Abraham Kern” dated l960.
I have quite a bit of information on the Kern’s but it is just wonderful to find
family history of the Hoovers. If by some chance we are related to the Hoover Sweeper
Hoovers, I have to chuckle because I lived in North Canton, Ohio, and passed the old
Hoover plant every day! Thank hyou again.

By: Kris

Kris — Thu, 25 Feb 2010 22:33:31 +0000

Suzie, I’m glad you were able to get something new from my research. And I’m always interested in information from other branches of the family…

By: Suzie McGhee

Suzie McGhee — Wed, 17 Feb 2010 01:21:58 +0000

Your info is great. I am a descendant to Mary (Polly) Hoover. She was the daughter of George and Elizabeth Garrison. I have a lot of info on this side of the Hoover Family. If anyone is interested, please let me know. I knew that Andreas came over to the United States in the mid 1700′s but I didn’t know exactly where he was from. Thank you for all your help.

By: Kris

Kris — Mon, 18 Jan 2010 17:06:47 +0000

Darlene,
thanks for the information on Elizabeth and John and the sources. I haven’t done any research into the Hunsaker family, yet. But do know this about John Hunsaker Jr.:

John Hunsaker likely met Elizabeth when her family was living near Leitersburg, Maryland. He was listed as a “non-enroller,” “non-Associator” as were Andreas, Henry and John Hoover and Nicholas Huntsaker and fined in the spring of 1776 in the Elizabeth Town District (the area near Hagerstown). However, I believe he went to Fayette County, PA with his brothers-in-law (Jacob, Andrew Jr. and George), possibly as early as 1769/70. He was listed in several land transactions with Andrew Huber Jr. in 1775 and 1776. John Hunsaker was listed in the Springhill township tax lists for 1785 and 1786.

And that—except for the story of the Indian attack—is all I know about John Hunsaker Jr. And probably only a small portion of what you know. ;^)
Kris

By: Darlene Athey Hill

Darlene Athey Hill — Sun, 17 Jan 2010 22:47:31 +0000

Thanks for posting some great information (and sources!), Kris. I thought I’d pass along, in case you didn’t know, information about Elizabeth Huber’s (1752-1792) spouse, John HUNSAKER Jr. (By the way, I show a birthdate of 10 June 1752 for Elizabeth. This was provided to me by Alan Davis, another researcher.)

Per the “Isaac Hunsaker Family Book”, Elizabeth Huber and John Hunsaker Jr. were married in Sept 1773. John was the son of John Hunsaker (who was son of Hartman & Anna Hunsaker) and Maria Magdalena Beery (who was daughter of Nicholas Bieri and Barbara Miller). Quite a bit of information on the Hunsaker family is available; one book of note is “History of Abraham Hunsaker & His Family” published in 2001 by Gwen Hunsaker Haws & Kenneth B. Hunsaker.

My descent is through John Hunsaker Jr.’s brother, Jacob.

By: Kris

Kris — Thu, 07 Jan 2010 02:50:31 +0000

Census records are a great place to start. All that was required was residency in a certain locale. If you have trouble finding them in census records, sometimes its locale—you’d be surprise how often they moved—and sometimes it’s the spelling. The census enumerators often wrote down what they heard, which sometimes has little to do with the actual names. Transcriptions for the indices can also be in error.

Tax records sometimes show not only property owners, but tenants or unmarried men who were of age, but didn’t own property. It often varies from year to year and township to township. I found one Hoover whose property was limited to a horse. On one record I found children of one of my Hockers listed among the township poor.

I’d be happy to help, Robert. Can you provide me more information on your family? Names and dates, for instance. I can poke around and see if I can get you started…