Hoover Surname Study – Page 7 – A Pennsylvania Dutch Genealogy

Update: 3 Revised Hoover Family Pages

Kris Hocker on 4 Apr 2010

I’ve finally added the revised family pages for George Hoover (ca 1766-1847) of Fayette County, son of Andrew and Catharine (___) Hoover and George Hoover (ca 1735/40-1813) of Armstrong county, son of Michael Hoover. These pages—especially George Hoover of Armstrong County—include some substantial changes from their prior versions, so descendants of Christian Hoover, William Matthias Kern Jr., Johan Adam Waltenbaugh, Peter Kern, Peter Dedrow/Tedrow, Martin Kerbaugh, and Philip Weitzel/Whitesel please take note. I’ve also updated the Andrew Hoover Jr. of Fayette County page to include the new information regarding his wife.

I am currently expanding my research to include Hoovers in Frederick/Washington County, Maryland and Lancaster County, Pennsylvania. There are at least three Hoover families in the same area in Maryland at approximately the same time of interest to me—Johannes Huber of Necessity (the Hoover vacuum family line), Andreas Huber (later of Fayette County), and Michael Huber (later of Bedford County) and several of his sons. Although it is unknown if there was actually a familial relationship between these groups, I find the possibility intriguing. After all, Andreas Huber named his first land purchase in Maryland “Cousins Obligation.” It makes me wonder who was the cousin and what was the obligation?

Do you have ties to the Hoover families of Frederick and Washington counties? If so, please drop me a line.

Update: George Hoover of Fayette County

Kris Hocker on 22 Mar 2010

I’ve recently discovered that George Hoover, son of Andrew and Catharine (___) Hoover, of Fayette County lived in Union Township his whole life. Therefore, he can not be the George Hoover who owned property in Westmoreland County from 1779 through 1799 and died in Armstrong County in 1813.

How Did We Get Here?

Before I get to what I’ve learned about Andrew Hoover’s son, George, let’s review. How did we previously determine that George Hoover of Armstrong County was the son of Andrew and Catharine (___) Hoover? What evidence led to that conclusion?

A biography of George’s grandson, Samuel Hoover of Indiana County, stated that:

“George Hoover, the grandfather of our subject, was among the early settlers of Westmoreland county. He was of German descent and came to that county when only fourteen years of age, with two brothers.”¹

Looking at Westmoreland County records reveals the baptisms of two children—Maria Magdalina and Solomon—to George and Eva Elisabeth (__) Hoover at Good Hope Lutheran and Reformed Church that match two heirs named in George Hoover’s estate papers.²,³,⁴ Children of George’s son Christian and daughters Catharina and Julianna were also baptized at Good Hope Lutheran and Reformed Church.⁵ The couple were also sponsors at their grandson Samuel’s baptism.

George Hoover purchased land in Donegal Township, Westmoreland County on 10 Apr 1779.⁶ Available county tax records put George there from 1783 through 1799 when he and Christian were marked as “gone from the county.”⁷,⁸,⁹ From these Armstrong and Westmoreland county records we know that the George Hoover in Westmoreland was, in fact, the same man as George Hoover of Armstrong County.

This George Hoover was in the Fayette/Westmoreland county area by 1779; but he could have been there earlier. From the 1800 U.S. census, we can estimate George’s birth date as circa 1755 or before.¹⁰ Going by Samuel’s biography, his grandfather, therefore, came to the Westmoreland area about 1769. Andrew Hoover’s son Jacob was in the Fayette County area by 1770 when he was living on land that today is part of Greene County, Pennsylvania.¹¹ Andrew’s son Andrew Jr. was also in Fayette County early. He and his brother-in-law were of “Manallin Township and county aforesaid [Westmoreland]” when they purchased land from John Waller in 1775.¹² We also know that Andrew Hoover had a son named George because he named him and left property to him in his last will & testament in 1784.¹³ George and wife Rosannah sold some of the land George inherited to John Hoover, presumably his brother.¹⁴

So, it seems perfectly reasonable that George Hoover of Armstrong County was the son of Andrew Hoover of Fayette County. Right? Is this conclusion supported by the other facts we know or do they sow doubt?

In my page on Andrew Hoover Sr., I wrote:

“I find some of the birth dates of Andrew’s grandchildren to be problematic—their parents having to have become parents as teenagers.”

Several of George’s children are good examples. Based on census records, an estimated birth date for George’s first daughter Catharine (Hoover) Kern puts her birth ca 1760—1770.¹⁵ Her eldest son Solomon was born 30 Nov 1781, which is consistent with a birth in the early 1760s for Catharine.¹⁶ Census records for George’s second daughter Rosanna (Hoover) Waltenbaugh place her birth date bef 1765.¹⁷ Judging by these two children alone, a 1755 birth date for George is not feasible. While census records are known to be inconsistent and sometimes incorrect regarding age and “guesstimates” complicate the analysis, the likelihood of both of George’s daughters being at least 10 years off AND their children’s ages being off… You see where this is going. While it’s possible, there are significant problems to address.¹⁸

Consider also that there are baptism records for both a Catharine and a Rosannah Hoover which place their births on 10 Apr 1761 and 27 Mar 1763.¹⁹ These dates fit perfectly with the estimated birth dates from the census records of George’s daughters. These church records name the girls’ parents as George and Eva Elisabeth Hoover.

But George’s wife was Rosannah. Right?

The only mention of Rosannah as George’s wife is in the deed where she and George sell land to John Hoover.²⁰ How do we know this deed refers to the son of Andrew Hoover Sr.? Although this deed is difficult to read, you can make out the following:

“…And whereas the said Andrew Hoover Senior in and by his last will and testament dated the twenty-fifth day of May in the year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and eighty four In the third section thereof did [?] [?] give unto his three sons Jacob Hoover [John] Hoover and George Hoover his whole estate… And whereas the said divisions have been [?] made and the [?] [?] [?] content? Now this indenture witnesseth the said George Hoover and Rosannah his wife do grant in consideration of the sum of sixty eight [pounds?] to them paid by John Hoover the receipt thereof to him by [?] [?] [?] granted bargained and sold – And by these presents do grant bargain & sell unto the said John Hoover his heirs [?] assigns the following described part of these [?] [?] of the lands of Andrew Hoover Senr divided unto the said George by the above in part [?] last will and testament of the said deceased…”

Louella Schaumberg Hoover believed that George and Rosannah sold the land (and executed the deed) prior to leaving for Armstrong County, but that the deed was only recorded when John sold the land in 1811.²¹ The next deed in the county deed book is for John Hoover’s sale of the land to James Fletcher. So, her assertion is a possibility.

Where did George and Rosannah live at the time of the deed? The deed provides no location information for George and Rosannah. If they were of Saltlick or Donegal townships, one would expect that information to be included in the deed. Because it is not, the evidence connecting this deed to the George Hoover of Westmoreland is slim.²² The logical presumption in this case is that George and Rosannah were of the same township and county as the land that they were selling—Union Township, Fayette County. Further proof of this assertion comes at the end of the deed where there is the following:

“Fayette County Pa—The [seventh?] day of November Anno Domini 1811 Before me [?] [?] one of the Justices of the Peace in and for the said County Personally came George Hoover and Rosannah his wife…”

This means that this George and Rosannah (___) Hoover were both alive and presumably living in Fayette County in 1811, most likely in Union Township. However, from the baptismal record of Maria Magdaline, daughter of George Hoover of Armstrong County, we know that George was married to Eva Elisabeth before 1787. We also know from deed, tax and census records that this couple had left the Westmoreland/Fayette County area by 1800.

Therefore, we must be dealing with two George Hoovers—one George of Fayette County, who was married to a woman named Rosannah and another George Hoover of Westmoreland and Armstrong counties, who was married to a woman named Eva Elisabeth. Furthermore, the deed records pertaining to the sale of land that Andrew Hoover left to his son George make it clear that the George Hoover of Fayette County, who married Rosannah, was the son of Andrew and Catharine (___) Hoover.

Look for more information on each of these men when I post their family group pages. In the meantime, if you have any questions, just drop me a line. And, as always, if you have more information, please shoot it my way…

Update: Andrew Hoover Jr. of Fayette County

Kris Hocker on 10 Mar 2010

One of the pieces of data I have for Andrew Hoover Jr. has intrigued and perplexed me. During her research in this Hoover family, Luella Schuamburg Hoover was sent a deed from Lancaster County, Pennsylvania in which Andrew named Yost Herbaugh as his attorney to receive from Catherine Liebrich, relict of Nicholas Liebrich, late of Raffow Township (Rapho Township), Lancaster County, Pennsylvania, “three bonds due from John John [Hans] of Menallen Township… unto me two of which are for the sum of Twenty-five pounds.”¹ I’ve always wondered who was Catherine Liebrich and what was her relationship to Andrew?

Today, I decided to poke around and see if I could discover more about the Liebrich family. I got lucky and found a site put together by David Hartzell Leebrick. From it I learned that Nicholas Liebrich, Andrew Hoover, and Philip Brown purchased land from John Hans in 1784, adjoining property of Christian Frederick, Ulrich Gingrich, Matthias Hoffart, Jacob Hoober, John Painter, and Andrew Hype.² I also discovered that my speculation regarding Catharine Liebrich being the mother or mother-in-law of Andrew Hoover was NOT true. Both Nicholas and Catharina were contemporaries of Andrew and the marriages of all their daughters have been accounted for. So, if she wasn’t his mother remarried or his mother-in-law, who was she? Why did Andrew Hoover from Wharton Township, Fayette County purchase land with Nicholas Liebrich of Manheim Township, Lancaster County and Philip Brown? The mystery deepened.

Although the Liebrich site included source data for the birth dates of the Liebrich children—John, Philip, Daniel, George, Elizabeth, Catharine, Mary, and Salome (also called Sarah)—I decided to check John Humphrey’s “Pennsylvania Births: Lancaster County 1723-1777” and “Pennsylvania Births: Lancaster County 1778-1800” for their birth/baptism information. Instead I found Catharine’s maiden name. The listing for Nicholas and Catharine’s daughter Maria includes the names of her parents as “Nichol. Liebrich and Catharina Hansin,” the “in” being a suffix indicative of a female.³

Thinking that John Hans was perhaps, then, Catharina’s father, I searched for additional deeds for John Hans, hoping he died intestate and thus deeds might reflect the settling of his estate and name his heirs. Instead, I found a deed from John Hans in which he sold land that he had inherited from his father Henry Hans, that by its boundary definition, looked to be the exact piece of land that was sold to Nicholas Liebrich, Andrew Hoover and Philip Brown in 1784.⁴

So, I went looking for deeds granted by Henry Hans and got lucky. I found a deed from Henry Hans’ heirs to John Hans in which “Catharine Hans wife of Nicholas Liebrich of the Town of Manheim and the County of Lancaster, Maria Hans wife of Andrew Hoover in Fayat [sic] County, Mansion [sic] Township, Barbara Hans wife of Philip Brown in Paxton Township, Elizabeth daughters and Sons in Laws all of the deceased Henry Hans and Province of Pennsylvania” released their rights in the property to John Hans the “son of the deceased Henry Hans.”⁵ Additionally, there was another quitclaim for this property from Maria Huber to John Hans dated 1788, because although Andrew and Maria were included in the prior deed and Andrew signed it, “yet by Neglect or otherwise she [Maria] did not sign and execute the same.” ⁶ This quitclaim was witnessed by Alexander McClean and Silvester Gruber. McClean was a neighbor of the Hoovers in Fayette County.

Thus, after some sleuthing for the Liebrich and Hans families in Lancaster County, I now know that Andrew Hoover Jr. (Andrew¹) of Fayette County married Maria Hans, daughter of Henry Hans of Warwick Township, Lancaster County, Pennsylvania.

Next Steps? Andrew Hoover Jr. was allegedly in Fayette County, Pennsylvania by 1770 when his brother Jacob Hoover settled on land in Monongalia County, Virginia (now part of Greene County, Pennsylvania). He purchased land in Westmoreland County in 1775 with his brother-in-law John Hunsaker from John Waller. However, an estimated birth date for Andrew’s son George of 1775-1778 means that Andrew married about 1774. So, when and where did Andrew meet Maria Hans of Warwick Township, Lancaster County, Pennsylvania?

As far as I know, Andreas Huber Sr. and family never lived in Lancaster County. Did he perhaps move his family there between his sale of his old Frederick County, Maryland property in 1763 and his purchase of other property in 1772? ⁷ If, as I postulate in “Andreas Huber Origins: Trippstadt, Ellerstadt, or Ittlingen?,” Andreas’ brother was Johannes Huber of Manheim Township, did Andreas’ family, perhaps, spend time with him in Lancaster County? What other connections exist between the Fayette County Hoovers and the Lancaster County Hoovers?

All good questions for which I need to find answers. What answers, I wonder, can be found in documents I have yet to find?

Huber Immigrants

Kris Hocker on 18 Dec 2009

I’ve pulled together a list of Hubers from the ships lists in the Pennsylvania Archives, Series II, Volume XVII. Where additional information is known, or I have a theory, I’ve added that information. This information can be viewed for free in its source form on Footnotes.com.

Pennsylvania Archives, Series II, Volume XVII

Names of Foreigners who took the Oath of Allegiance, 1727-1775

Date	Ship	Name	Page/Notes
24 Aug 1728	Mortonhouse	Johannes Huber	p. 12 This Johannes Huber may have been the son of Gregor Jonas Huber of Ellerstadt. He most likely settled in Lancaster Co.
21 Sep 1732	Pink Plaisance	Christian Huber (34) Hans Huber (54)	p.52
26 Sep 1732	Mary	Johannes Huber	p.66
30 Sep 1732	Dragon	Christian Huber	p.68
29 May 1735	Mercury	Hendryk Huber, age 70	p. 114
29 May 1735	Mercury	Heinrich Huber (Hendryk Huber, age 70) Hans Huber (Hans Kubler, age 43) Rudolph Hueber, age 6 Lisabeth Hueber, age 11	p.113
16 Sep 1736	Princess Augustus	Wilhelm Huber	p.126Possibly the William Huber of Shenandoah County, Virginia
8 Oct 1737	Charming Nancy	Balthasar (Baltzer) Huber, 21 Hans Georg Hubler	p. 142 Balthasar Huber was from Ittlingen, son of Johann Jacob and Anna Barbara Huber, cousin of Andreas Huber (see next).
9 Sep 1738	Two Sisters	Andreas Hoover (under 16)	p. 158 This Andreas Huber was the ancestor of Pres. Hoover.
20 Sep 1738**	Friendship	Hans Jacob Huber
7 Feb 1739	Jamaica	Peter Huber Felix Huber (38)	p. 181
26 Sep 1741	St. Mark	Joh. Nicklas Huber	p.210
12 Oct 1741	Friendship	Daniel Huber(t) (age 22) Andreas Huber(t)(age 20) George Huber(t) (Jurgen, age 24)	p.217 These Hubers were from Thaleischweiler-Fröschen, Germany. Andreas was the son of Johan Adam and Eva (___) Huber, and Daniel and George may have been his brothers. They went to Lebanon County.
28 May 1742	Snow Catherine	Johann Michael Huber Jacob Lischy	p. 227 Rev. Jacob Lischy was a German Reformed minister who served York County
21 Sep 1742	Francis and Elizabeth	Hans Jacob Huber Ludwig Huber Philip Deter Huber	p.232 These Hubers were from Ittlingen. Hans Jacob was the son of Casper and Barbara (___) Huber, and brother of Johannes Huber. Ludwig and Philip Dietrich were his sons.
26 Feb 1743	Rosanna	Hans Ulerich Huber	p.243 Hans Ulrich settled in Warwick Township, Lancaster County, Pennsylvania. 1743 Philadelphia Tax assessment list; 1751 Warwick Twp Tax assessment list.
30 Sep 1743	Phoenix	Georg Huber	p.245
20 Oct 1744	Phoenix	Friedrich Huber	p.251
1 Aug 1747	Bilander Vernon	Rudolph Huber Henrich Huber Henrich Huber Jr.	p. 257 Heinrich Huber, possibly of Trippstadt, Palatinate
27 Sep 1749	Isaac	Heinrich Huber Philip Haber	p.298 Heinrich Huber was likely of Trippstadt, Palatinate, son of Johann Konrath Huber.
11 Sep 1749	Priscilla	Heinrich Huber Jacob Huber Rudolph Huber Casper Huber Henrich Huber	p.283
15 Sep 1749	Phoenix	Jacob Huber	p.291
28 Sep 1749	Ann	Hans Geo Huber Hans Adam Hacker	p.299
17 Oct 1749	Fane	Hans Georg Huber Johan Georg Huber	p.306
13 Aug 1750	Edinburgh	Johan Adam Huber	p.311Johann Adam was of Trippstadt, Palatinate.
15 Aug 1750	Royal Union	Hans von Huber	p.314
21 Aug 1750	Anderson	Johan Jacob Huber Johan Michael Huber	p.315 Johann Jacob Huber was of Trippstadt, Palatinate, father of Johann Adam (Edinbrugh, 1750) and Johann (Edinburgh, 1754).
28 Aug 1750	Two Brothers	Johan Georg Huber	p.317Johann Georg Huber was from Neifern.
24 Sep 1751	Neptune	Jacob Huber	p.342
25 Aug 1751	Anderson	Hans Geo. Huber	p.329
25 Sep 1751	Phoenix	Jacob Huber Jacob Hauber	p. 344
27 Sep 1752	President	Johan Martin Huber	p.361
22 Nov 1752	Phoenix	Georg Huber sick	p.377
26 Feb 1753	Brothers	Hans Wendel Huber	p.402
30 Sep 1754	Brothers	Jacob Huber Christian Huber (24)	p.432,433
30 Sep 1754	Edinburgh	Johannes Huber Andreas Hübner (Andreas Huber)	p.435 This Andreas Huber eventually settled in Fayette Co., Pennsylvania. Johannes may have been Andreas’ eldest son, Johannes Huber of Trippstadt, Palatinate, or possibly even Andreas’ brother.
8 Nov 1752	Snow Louisa	Simon Leitel Huber	p. 375
24 Sep 1763?	Peggy	Conrad Huber, age 46 (Conradt Hüber, p. 398)	p.401
5 Oct 1763	Richmond	Georg Friederich Huber	p.456
1 Nov 1763	Chance	Casper Huber	p.456
8 Aug 1764	Chance	Ludwig Huber	p.459
13 Jan 1767	Juno	Johan George Huber	p.478
5 Oct 1767	Sally	Konrad Heuer Nickel Huber Adam Huber Philip Huber	p.479 Nickolaus, Adam and Philip Huber were sons of Johann Konrath Huber of Trippstadt, Palatinate. They emigrated with their brother Heinrich (Isaac, 1749) on his return to America after their father’s death in 1766.
6 Oct 1767	Hamilton	Johannes Huber	p. 480
10 Nov 1767	Sally	Lorentz Huber	p. 484
10 Oct 1768	Minerva	Joh. Nickel Huber	p.485
26 Oct 1768	Crawford	Michael V. Huber	p.487
26 Oct 1768	Betsy	Georg Huber	p. 488 Possibly Johann Georg, son of Johann Philipp Huber of Trippstadt, Palatinate

p.717 Index to surnames

** Added from Rupp’s A Collection of Upward of Thirty Thousand Names of German, Swiss, Dutch, and French and Other Immigrants in Pennsylvania from 1726 to 1776.

If you have information on one of these Hubers and where they settled in America, I would like to hear from you. The information I’ve seen on Huber emigrants can be very confusing sometimes as to who’s who. I’d like very much to straighten it out some…

Licking County, Ohio Hoovers

Kris Hocker on 25 Sep 2009

I’ve recently been researching the Hoover families of Licking County, Ohio. If you’ve been following the Andrew Hoover family data that I’ve been putting up, you’ll have noticed that Henry² Hoover (Andrew¹) moved to Johnstown, Licking County, Ohio from Greene Township, Greene County, Pennsylvania (prior to that Wharton Township, Fayette County, Pennsylvania) sometime between the 1810 census¹ and 1815.² Louella Hoover indicated in her research that Henry’s elder brother John might have also moved to Ohio. So, I’ve been following up on that premise…

Looking at the early census records (1820-1850), I put together the following table to help track the individuals/families through the years. I use it to help postulate relationships between people and “movements” around the county.

Head of Household	1820	1830	1840	1850
Franklin Township
John Hoover	45+
Charles Hoover	26-45
Newark Township
John Hoover		80-90	n/a	n/a
Charles Hoover		40-50	40-50	60
Barbara Hoover			70-80	97
Jesse Hoover			20-30	33
Monroe Township
Emanuel Hoover	26-45	n/a
George Hoover	45+	50-60	n/a
Samuel Hoover	16-26	30-40	40-50	n/a
Henry Hoover	45+	n/a
MM Hoover (Mahlon)		20-30	30-40	46
Mary Hoover		40-50	[60-70; James]	69
James Hoover			30-40	43
Anna Hoover				54
Saphrona Hoover			20-30
Elizabeth Hoover			[70-80, E Pratt]	86
Hartford Township
John Hoover	45+	60-70	70-80	83
Samuel Hoover	26-45	30-40	n/a
John Hoover Jr.		30-40	40-50	49
William Hoover		20-30
Harmon Hoover			20-30
Lois Hoover				72
Zenas Hoover				25
Licking Township
John H. Hoover				36
Thomas Hoover				28
Bowling Green Township
Isaac Hoover	16-26
Grand Township
Isaac Hoover			20-30
St Albans Township
Isaac Hoover			20-30
Madison Township
John Hoover			20-30
Etna Township
David Hoover				24

Franklin/Newark Townships

Looking at Franklin and Newark Townships, it’s possible to theorize that the John Hoover and Charles Hoover in Franklin Township in 1820 are the same men as the John and Charles in Newark Township in 1830, etc. The ages in subsequent census records match up nicely. Also, you could also hypothesize that Barbara Hoover (1840, 1850) is the widow of John Hoover, and possibly the mother or stepmother of Charles Hoover—especially as she is a member of his household in 1850. There is a female 45+ (1820) and 70-80 (1830) in John’s household, quite likely this Barbara. The Jesse Hoover is possibly a son of Charles Hoover. Although Charles doesn’t have any young males in his household in 1830, John does have a male 10-15 (Jesse would be 13). John and his wife, I would presume, were too old have had a child that age, so it is quite likely that it’s a younger family member—such as a grandson, living with them and helping them out.

It’s also possible to postulate that John Hoover of Franklin and Newark townships was the son of Andrew Hoover of Fayette County. John² Hoover (Andrew¹) was born circa 1744 in Germany, making him 76 in 1820 and 86 in 1830, matching the census ages of John from Franklin and Newark townships. He most likely died prior to 1840. There is a John George Hoover of Licking county who died in 1834, buried in the 6th Street Cemetery. However, he’s listed as a veteran of the Revolutionary War.³ Our Hoover did not fight in the war.⁴ So, it’s quite possible I’m completely out in left field about this John Hoover! That, of course, is the problem with theories. They may help create avenues of new research, but they’re also sometimes simply wrong.

There was a John H. Hoover, a miller, who was born in Pennsylvania in 1814 and came to Newark with his grandfather “when quite young.”⁵ His wife Sarah was born in Washington County, Pennsylvania in 1814 and came to Newark in 1829. Her cousin was the wife of Charles Hoover—perhaps the Charles Hoover in the census records? This John would have been the correct age to be the male <10 in 1820 and 10-15 in 1830 in the household of John Hoover. Perhaps John H. Hoover’s father died in Pennsylvania and he went to live with his grandparents who went to Licking County before 1820?

Monroe Township

It’s a bit easier in Monroe Township. Henry Hoover (45+, 1820) is the son of Andrew Hoover of Fayette County, Pennsylvania. He died in Johnstown, Monroe Township on 23 Sep 1823. Emanuel Hoover is his son and Mahlon and James Hoover are his grandsons. Mary Hoover is Emanuel’s widow. This family is well documented. That leaves George Hoover (45+, 1820), Samuel Hoover, Anna Hoover, Saphrona Hoover, and Elizabeth Hoover to ponder.

George Hoover is of the correct age to have been the eldest son of Henry² Hoover, born in Maryland in 1771—age 49 in 1820 and 59 in 1830. He, perhaps, died prior to 1840, leaving a widow—Elizabeth? Elizabeth Hoover was living in the household of Eli Pratt in 1850.⁶ According to that record she was 86 years old, born in Maryland. A female 70-80 is in Eli Pratt’s household in 1840, quite likely the same Elizabeth Hoover.⁷

So, who was Samuel Hoover? Possibly a son of George Hoover? The 1800 Wharton township census records of George Hoover include 3 males age <10 (born 17900-1800). Samuel would fit right into the family. So, this is one possibility. It needs much more research to prove, however. Anna Hoover could possibly be Samuel’s widow. The 1850 census record for Anna states that she was born in Maryland.

Hartford Township

In Hartford Township, the senior most Hoover is John Hoover (45+, 1820). Lois Hoover is his wife—they’re listed together in the 1850 U.S. census.⁸ John is of the correct age to be a son of John² Hoover (Andrew¹). However, at this point there is no proof of any relationship. Unfortunately, people of the same surname in the same location are not always related.

Samuel, John and William are quite possibly sons of John of Hartford Township, while Harmon and Zenas may be grandsons. I saw a post on a message board that stated Samuel Hoover and his wife Phebe sold their farm in Hartford Township in 1839—moving out of the county prior to 1840?⁹

Conclusions

Census records alone don’t prove much of anything—especially since the pre-1850 records only provide the name of the head of household, not the household’s members. So, I can only speculate that the members of those households are, in fact, Hoovers, are related to the head of the household, and that there is some relationship between households of the same name within the same jurisdiction.

That said, there is sufficient evidence to convince me that it would be worthwhile to dig for more records. I could possibly learn more about John² Hoover (Andrew¹) and George³ Hoover (Henry², Andrew¹). Considering how little I currently I know about these family members, I believe follow-up is definitely warranted.

Do you have information on these Licking County Hoovers? Are you looking for information on these families? Drop me a line and let me know. I’d love to collaborate.

Update (11/14/2016): John Hoover of Franklin and Newark Townships was born in Germany and came to the US about 1775. He was indentured to Jacob Hoover of Lancaster County, Pennsylvania and served in the Revolutionary War in the Pennsylvania line. He and Barbara had 14 children, the eldest of whom was 53 on 27 March 1838. Per his pension file, John and Barbara married about 1784 in Chester County about twenty miles west of Philadelphia.

U.S. Federal Census Records

Charles Hoover and John Hoover households, 1820 United States Census, Licking County, Ohio (Franklin Township), Page 33; National Archives micropublication M33, roll 93
Emanuel Hoover and George Hoover households, 1820 United States Census, Licking County, Ohio (Monroe Township), Page 48; National Archives micropublication M33, roll 94
Samuel Hoover household, 1820 United States Census, Licking County, Ohio (Monroe Township), Page 47; National Archives micropublication M33, roll 94
Henry Hoover household, 1820 United States Census, Licking County, Ohio (Johnstown, Monroe Township), Page 47; National Archives micropublication M33, roll 94
Isaac Hoover household, 1820 United States Census, Licking County, Ohio (Bowling Green Township), Page 40; National Archives micropublication M33, roll 94
John Hoover and Samuel Hoover households, 1820 United States Census, Licking County, Ohio (Hartford Township), Page 55; National Archives micropublication M33, roll 94
MM Hoover and Mary Hoover households, 1830 United States Census, Licking County, Ohio (Monroe Township), Page 457; National Archives micropublication M19, roll 134
Samuel Hoover and George Hoover households, 1830 United States Census, Licking County, Ohio (Monroe Township), Page 457; National Archives micropublication M19, roll 134
Charles Hoover household, 1830 United States Census, Licking County, Ohio (Newark Township), Page 393; National Archives micropublication M19, roll 134
John Hoover household, 1830 United States Census, Licking County, Ohio (Newark Township), Page 403; National Archives micropublication M19, roll 134
John Hoover, John Hoover, and William Hoover households, 1830 United States Census, Licking County, Ohio (Hartford Township), Page 483; National Archives micropublication M19, roll 134
Samuel Hoover household, 1830 United States Census, Licking County, Ohio (Hartford Township), Page 482; National Archives micropublication M19, roll 134
Barbara Hoover household, 1840 United States Census, Licking County, Ohio (Newark Township), Page 158; National Archives micropublication M704, roll 408
Charles Hoover household, 1840 United States Census, Licking County, Ohio (Newark Township), Page 198; National Archives micropublication M704, roll 408
Jesse Hoover household, 1840 United States Census, Licking County, Ohio (Newark Township), Page 194; National Archives micropublication M704, roll 408
MM Hoover and James Hoover households, 1840 United States Census, Licking County, Ohio (Monroe Township), Page 370; National Archives micropublication M704, roll 408
Samuel Hoover household, 1840 United States Census, Licking County, Ohio (Monroe Township), Page 372; National Archives micropublication M704, roll 408
Saphrona Hoover household, 1840 United States Census, Licking County, Ohio (Johnstown, Monroe Township), Page 377; National Archives micropublication M704, roll 408
John Hoover and Harmon Hoover households, 1840 United States Census, Licking County, Ohio (Hartford Township), Page 367; National Archives micropublication M704, roll 408
John Hoover Jr. household, 1840 United States Census, Licking County, Ohio (Hartford Township), Page 364; National Archives micropublication M704, roll 408
Isaac Hoover household, 1840 United States Census, Licking County, Ohio (Grand Township), Page 288; National Archives micropublication M704, roll 408
Isaac Hoover household, 1840 United States Census, Licking County, Ohio (St Albans Township), Page 340; National Archives micropublication M704, roll 408
John Hoover household, 1840 United States Census, Licking County, Ohio (Madison Township), Page 188; National Archives micropublication M704, roll 408
John Hoover household, 1850 United States Census, Licking County Ohio (Hartford Township), Page 238, Dwelling 987, Family 999, Line 2-3; National Archives micropublication M432, roll 702.
John Hoover Jr. household, 1850 United States Census, Licking County Ohio (Hartford Township), Page 233, Dwelling 924, Family 936, Line 18-19; National Archives micropublication M432, roll 702.
Zenas Hoover household, 1850 United States Census, Licking County Ohio (Hartford Township), Page 233, Dwelling 925, Family 937, Line 20-25; National Archives micropublication M432, roll 702.
Eli Pratt household, 1850 United States Census, Licking County, Ohio (Monroe Township), Page 205, Dwelling 538, Family 543, Line 6; National Archives micropublication M432, roll 702
Mahlon Hoover household, 1850 United States Census, Licking County, Ohio (Monroe Township), Page 204, Dwelling 519, Family 525, Line 12-21; National Archives micropublication M432, roll 702
James Hoover household, 1850 United States Census, Licking County, Ohio (Monroe Township), Page 204, Dwelling 519, Family 525, Line 22-32; National Archives micropublication M432, roll 702
Anna Hoover household, 1850 United States Census, Licking County, Ohio (Monroe Township), Page 195, Dwelling 387, Family 392, Line 7-10; National Archives micropublication M432, roll 702
Charles Hoover household, 1850 United States Census, Licking County, Ohio (Newark Township), Page 7, Dwelling 90, Family 99, Line 24-29; National Archives micropublication M432, roll 702; household includes Barbara Hoover, age 97
Jesse Hoover household, 1850 United States Census, Licking County, Ohio (Newark Township), Page 4, Dwelling 54, Family 59, Line 36-40; National Archives micropublication M432, roll 702
L.J. Dunning household, 1850 United States Census, Licking County, Ohio (Etna Township), Page 314, Dwelling 2049, Family 2087, Line 23; National Archives micropublication M432, roll 703

My Hoover Research

Kris Hocker on 2 Apr 2009

In researching my Hoover family line, I’ve always hit a brick wall at my great-great-great-grandfather Christian Hoover. He seemed to appear almost from nowhere. Family history regarding Christian and Caroline (Kinnard) Hoover was vague and sometimes contradictory. Here’s what the older family members recall about the Hoover family, specifically regarding Christian:

Christian was one of seven brothers who immigrated to this country from Germany, through Holland, in 1817 and settled in York County.
The Hoover family came from southern Pennsylvania and moved northward.
Christian was born in 1826.
Christian was the son of one of the seven brothers.
Christian cleared his land of trees and built a log house and barn along the road from Karthaus to Driftwood.
Christian was a self-taught veterinarian, horse breeder, and trader.
Christian and his first wife, Caroline Kinnard, had 4 sons: Reuben, Samuel, Simon, and George.
Christian and his second wife, Mary Conaway, had 1 daughter: Edith.

I was able to verify points #7 and #8 through my research in census reports, vital records and the estate records of both Caroline (Kinnard) Hoover and Christian Hoover.

I have a picture of a house that I’m told belonged to Christian Hoover and deeds of sale for property in Covington township, Clearfield county, Pennsylvania after Christian’s death in 1888. The property is referred to as the “Dodge lands” from warrant 5404, but that’s the best I can identify/locate the property.

The closest I’ve come to locating parents for Christian was when I found a census record for 1850 for the Philip Hoover household in Plum Creek township, Armstrong county, Pennsylvania.¹ The family is listed as follows:

Philip Hoover, 48, M, Farmer, 1500
Hannah, 48, F
Christopher, 25, M, Farmer
Mary Anne, 23, F
John T, 21, M, Farmer
Margaret, 19, F
Barbara, 17, F
Wm, 15, M, Farmer
Jacob, 13, M
Ralston, 11, M
Sarah, 8, F
Samuel M., 5, M

Philip’s son Christopher is the correct age to be my Christian. The death certificate of Simon Hoover, son of my Christian Hoover, lists Christian’s birth place as Armstrong county. Additionally, Christian’s wife Caroline (Kinnard) Hoover was the daughter of Thomas and Maria (Fisher) Kinnard of Armstrong county.² So, I have circumstantial evidence that Christian is the son of Philip and Hannah, but no real proof—no baptism or marriage record, no mention of siblings or parents in any of the information on Christian.

To further frustrate me, in the late 1870s Philip sold his property in Armstrong county and moved west with his son Jacob to Kansas where he died and was buried in 1882. The likelihood of his having left estate papers naming Pennsylvania heirs is slim. Jacob, meanwhile, continued his westward migration until the family finally settled in Aberdeen, Grays Harbor, Washington. Jacob married Julia Ann Rupert, I believe daughter of Isaac/Israel Rupert and Christina (___).

I know little on the other children of Philip and Hannah (Thomas) Hoover. Mary Ann may have married a Fisher and died in Kansas. William may have been in the ~~62nd~~ 63rd Regiment, Company C G during the Civil War with his brother Ralston, who died on 18 Jun 1862 at the Baltimore Cross Roads in Virginia.³

However, if Christian is the son of Philip and Hannah (Thomas) Hoover, then points #1, #2, and #4 are not quite correct. I was far luckier in researching Philip than I have been with Christian. There is a manuscript at the Pennsylvania State Library by Luella Schaumberg Hoover entitled “Some Descendants of Andrew Hoover.” Her research was invaluable to fleshing out Philip’s ancestry.

Philip’s grandfather (George) and great-grandfather (Andrew) immigrated to the United States in 1754 along with the rest of the Andrew’s family. They first settled near Leitersburg, Frederick county (now Washington county), Maryland. Then about 1769 moved to Fayette county, Pennsylvania.⁴

So, yes they came to Clearfield county from the south, but not from York county.⁵ They came to this country some 63 years before the family’s estimate and Christian was most likely not the son, but the great-grandson and great-great-grandson of the immigrants.

Update! Additional research has shown that Christian’s grandfather George Hoover was the son of Michael Hoover, not Andrew Hoover. While I don’t have a year of immigration, tax records put them in Derry Township, Dauphin County by 1758. They remained there through at least 1763 when Rosannah Hoover was baptized. The family moved south, settling near Hagerstown, Maryland by 1773—and, ironically, near Andrew Hoover’s family—for some time before moving west to Bedford (now Somerset) County in the spring of 1773, then Westmoreland County by 1779. George and, likely, his sons, moved north again about 1800 to Armstrong County to land on Crooked Creek in Plum Creek Township. Unlike many Huber/Hoover families, this family did not practice the Mennonite faith. They were Lutherans.

Photo: Christian Hoover Homestead

Kris Hocker on 22 Feb 2009

Christian Hoover homestead, Clearfield county, Penna.

Hoover homestead, view 2

The Christian Hoover homestead, possibly in Karthaus or Covington township, Clearfield county, Pennsylvania. The exact location is not known.

Tag: Hoover Surname Study

How Did We Get Here?

Pennsylvania Archives, Series II, Volume XVII

Conclusions

U.S. Federal Census Records